<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Scalable WordPress Navigation Using Sort Order</title>
	<atom:link href="http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/</link>
	<description>Engage Yourself with WordPress.tv</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:49:27 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-8826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-8826</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Scott,
thanks for the tips. I am new to wordpress and I trying to convert my site over to a wordpress blog.
thanks,
John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,<br />
thanks for the tips. I am new to wordpress and I trying to convert my site over to a wordpress blog.<br />
thanks,<br />
John</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vid</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-4763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-4763</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Great idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Scott Ellis</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-4276</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Ellis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-4276</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Homeion, Most themes I&#039;ve used and built support drop downs though I know many don&#039;t, this was clearly aimed at those that do. I don&#039;t use a script per se for navigation, traditional html, css and javascript as necessary. As for how particular themes handle several pages, it&#039;s hard for me to address in a simple answer since there are so many themes out there. I&#039;m going to work on a tutorial about building a content map which might help a little. It also depends on how the pages are being used, all top level, mostly sub pages, ...? 

Jens, You&#039;ll have to talk to Automattic about building it into the core! I know from hearing Matt talk about the core several times that it is something the do only very sparingly in an effort to keep the WordPress core as slimmed down and flexible as possible leaving things like this up to plug-ins. It&#039;s a conscious decision on their part.

While I don&#039;t personally use My Page Order I&#039;ve seen it in action and it&#039;s a great plug-in no doubt. Part of the reason for this tutorial is 1) just to give people an option and understanding of how to build scalable page navigation and 2) since I do WordPress work full time, we build the sites/themes to not over depend on Plug-ins since trying to future support every plug-in is just not practical. That&#039;s definitely not a knock against your plug-in, I think it&#039;s an awesome piece of work, I just prefer to build our themes as plug-in independent as possible. 

Unfortunately, it was a lesson learned from experience when a plugin we regularly used wasn&#039;t compatible with a new version of WP and my phone started blowing up with client calls who&#039;s websites started acting funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeion, Most themes I&#8217;ve used and built support drop downs though I know many don&#8217;t, this was clearly aimed at those that do. I don&#8217;t use a script per se for navigation, traditional html, css and javascript as necessary. As for how particular themes handle several pages, it&#8217;s hard for me to address in a simple answer since there are so many themes out there. I&#8217;m going to work on a tutorial about building a content map which might help a little. It also depends on how the pages are being used, all top level, mostly sub pages, &#8230;? </p>
<p>Jens, You&#8217;ll have to talk to Automattic about building it into the core! I know from hearing Matt talk about the core several times that it is something the do only very sparingly in an effort to keep the WordPress core as slimmed down and flexible as possible leaving things like this up to plug-ins. It&#8217;s a conscious decision on their part.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t personally use My Page Order I&#8217;ve seen it in action and it&#8217;s a great plug-in no doubt. Part of the reason for this tutorial is 1) just to give people an option and understanding of how to build scalable page navigation and 2) since I do WordPress work full time, we build the sites/themes to not over depend on Plug-ins since trying to future support every plug-in is just not practical. That&#8217;s definitely not a knock against your plug-in, I think it&#8217;s an awesome piece of work, I just prefer to build our themes as plug-in independent as possible. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, it was a lesson learned from experience when a plugin we regularly used wasn&#8217;t compatible with a new version of WP and my phone started blowing up with client calls who&#8217;s websites started acting funny.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Crenshaw</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-3899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Crenshaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-3899</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Jens and Gary...My Page Order is indispensable and should be a part of the core. The numbers are just too much of a hassle to even use.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jens and Gary&#8230;My Page Order is indispensable and should be a part of the core. The numbers are just too much of a hassle to even use.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gary H</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-3870</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I use the &#039;My Page Order&#039; plugin, it&#039;s got a nice drag n drop interface so you can move pages around to your heart&#039;s content with no need to worry about those numbers any more!

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/my-page-order/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the &#8216;My Page Order&#8217; plugin, it&#8217;s got a nice drag n drop interface so you can move pages around to your heart&#8217;s content with no need to worry about those numbers any more!</p>
<p><a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/my-page-order/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/my-page-order/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jens Törnell</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-3868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens Törnell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-3868</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Why not just build in a better sort order manager into Wordpress core, like &lt;a href=&quot;http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/my-page-order/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Page Order Plugin&lt;/a&gt;.

This plugin works great I think and something like this should be build into the code.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just build in a better sort order manager into WordPress core, like <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/my-page-order/" rel="nofollow">My Page Order Plugin</a>.</p>
<p>This plugin works great I think and something like this should be build into the code.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: homeion</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-3860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[homeion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-3860</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Do you read my mind? This was on my next todo list to look into. Thanks.
A couple og questions. You didn&#039;t mention the drop down. I&#039;ve got a theme that let sub-pages be on the drop down, but most don&#039;t. Or at least those I&#039;ve been using don&#039;t.  Do you use a plugin? I think I&#039;ve heard of a script.
The other question: some themes handle pages better than others. Let&#039;s say if I have 5-7 pages, how do I find a theme that handles them?
Thanks again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you read my mind? This was on my next todo list to look into. Thanks.<br />
A couple og questions. You didn&#8217;t mention the drop down. I&#8217;ve got a theme that let sub-pages be on the drop down, but most don&#8217;t. Or at least those I&#8217;ve been using don&#8217;t.  Do you use a plugin? I think I&#8217;ve heard of a script.<br />
The other question: some themes handle pages better than others. Let&#8217;s say if I have 5-7 pages, how do I find a theme that handles them?<br />
Thanks again.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael Waters</title>
		<link>http://wordpress.tv/2009/07/29/howto-nav-sort-order/#comment-3858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Waters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordpress.tv/?p=2200#comment-3858</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Very nice. I was using the increments of to for the main and sub pages, but this approach clearly outlines the relationship between the main and sub menu pages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. I was using the increments of to for the main and sub pages, but this approach clearly outlines the relationship between the main and sub menu pages.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

